Arhugues, Number8, we have found and fixed those, and they will be ok in the next release. Hopefully quite soon.

MikeDoherty, not yet, I meant the "random background exceptions". But we've been able to repro the solution explorer bug... I'll email you in a while. Thanks!

My comparison is ViEmu is significantly more complete. It's easy enough to try them both yourself.

Last edited by mphafner (2010-05-21 12:40:19)

Thanks all for chipping in. I think it wouldn't be fair for me to compare both. I actually haven't tried VsVim, although I did have a look at the web site and at the feature list. JaredPar, the author of VsVim, is actually a long-time ViEmu customer, and I am only sympathetic to his effort, given we've been so late with ViEmu/VS2010. In our defense, this version is more a rewrite to .NET managed code and the new WPF/MEF editor, and it will allow us to provide great features which will only be apparent over the next few years. The shortest route would have stayed as native C++ and COM, but we took the road that provides the best outlook for the future.

I'd like to think that the main difference is that ViEmu is a professional offering, not perfect, of course, but we are investing, and will invest, a lot of hours making sure it works fine with all languages, Resharper, Visual Assist, and generally doing a lot of dirty work to make sure the experience is great. The vi/vim core in ViEmu/VS2010 is the same as in the other ViEmus, it's about half the codebase, and it's nowadays quite complete, with quite wide ex support, single- and multiple-key mappings, our own vim-compatible regex engine, etc... and we will keep improving it in the future.

ViEmu also has a 5-year track record of being there and updated to new versions of Visual Studio and to new quirks in the most popular 3rd party add-ins. We plan to keep that for 5 more years, if not much more. I like to think that ViEmu has a track record of giving great value for money, and good and reliable support and maintenance. Although a vi/vim emulator will never be a big hit, I hope this history will ensure having trust from customers for future offerings. And rather than direct commercial considerations, it is the reason that we plan to be a reliable provider for vi/vim needs for developers for many years to come.

Actually, July 25 will be the fifth anniversary of the release of ViEmu 1.0, and I should plan something for the occasion. Let's see if I come up with something enjoyable for all.

Thanks everyone for your support!

  -- Jon

Thanks Digicoder! I hope you will like ViEmu/VS2010 even much more moving forward. Regards, -- Jon

Thank you very much for the beta.
I've tested VsVim, but ViEmu is playing in another league. I'd consider VsVim as some sort of "proof-of-concept".

Thanks for the beta.  Feels great to be back in vi land
I have one issue. The . command does not work for entered text. When pressing . in normal mode a dot is inserted instead of repeating the last command.

Im running VS 2010 professional with Visual Assist and editing .cpp and .h files. It works for normal commands like delete or paste but as soon as there has been keyboard input in the command it fails  iabc<esc>. becomes ab.c

After I installed ViEMU beta 1, my cursor does not show reverse video anymore.  It has become really hard to see my cursor now.  I have resharper installed also.  I have tried changing resharper to highlight the current line.  That doesn't help to see the cursor but at least I can see the current line and start hunting from there for the cursor.  Any guesses as to resolve this?  I installed beta 2 and the problem still exists.

Jerry.

jnothstine, number8, we don't have reverse video cursor in ViEmu. This doesn't seem to be possible in WPF. Although we can try to find another workaround if the current MEF-based solution isn't valid. Can you post or email me screenshots of your workspace so I can try to understand how it is showing? Thanks!

Thanks much nr8, Jerry sent me the capture, I asked him to remove the R# current line marker, and the problem went away. Let's see if this time we can find a proper fix or work-around. Rgds, - Jon

Beta 3 is ready:

  http://www.viemu.com/blog/2010/05/25/viemu-for-vs2010-beta-3-and-other-viemus-254/

Main points: Ctrl-[ works for Escape, and a small fix in the "Enter-License-Key" dialog.